For Heart Evangelista‘s latest vlog, she brought in her sister Camille and her mom Cecile to bond over good food and lots of kwentuhan.

While preparing Camille’s signature butter crab with sardines pasta, the three of them dished about a variety of topics—from plastic surgery rumors (Cecile vouches her Heart didn’t have her nose or double eyelids done) to the origins of Camille’s artisanal food brand La Petite Bella (it’s named after her daughter and has ties to their childhood in San Francisco) to Cecile’s current relationship status (“I’m happily single; I’ve been separated since May 2016 and now I’m single”).

But the topic that stood out the most was when Heart asked her mom to give advice about love, to which she simply answered, “You have to give each other space. Allow each other to grow. That’s it.”

Cheekily, as always, she then pressed her mom to give her two cents about her own marriage to Sorsogon governor Chiz Escudero. Without missing a beat, Cecile said, “You’re fine. You’re happy.”

And *surprise surprise* Chiz was dragged into the frame with him hilariously saying: “Sundin palagi ang inyong asawa!” When the laugher died down, Cecile continued her thoughts about Heart and Chiz’s marriage and earnestly said, “You know what I like about your marriage? You allow each other to grow. You don’t stunt her growth…You don’t cramp her style. I think that’s what’s good about their marriage. He allows her to grow, mature on her own.”